Friday, February 4, 2011

Stupid Commenter Beatdown - Nazis Invade Trenton

"I'm not just a Nazi. 
I also appreciate fine cinema."
So, a neo-Nazi group is planning on holding a rally at the Statehouse in Trenton in mid-April.  If there's one thing you can count on is where there are Nazi's, there are dumb comments and where there are dumb comments, you'll find the Persnickety Project. 

A neo-Nazi organization whose events have attracted sometimes violent counterprotests will hold a rally in front of the Statehouse on April 16, said the group’s New Jersey representative, Jason Hiecke.

Oh, boy. 

Organizations such as the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League describe the Detroit-based NSM as the nation’s largest neo-Nazi group and say it promotes an anti-Semitic and racist ideology through rallies, a website and other online activities.

Wonder where they would get THAT idea?

Etzion Neuer, director of the Anti-Defamation’s office in Teaneck, said the NSM group seems to be trying to raise its local profile.  “The group has had a presence in New Jersey for some time,” Neuer said. “I’d be hard-pressed to find the last time we’ve seen a gathering of this sort in New Jersey. It’s been several years. And it’s disturbing.”

Possibly the most disturbing presence in New Jersey since "The Wiggles" played The Susquehanna Bank Center.



Hiecke said Brian Holland, a presidential candidate in 2008 and NSM member from Virginia, may attend the gathering in Trenton. Hiecke described the event as a political rally. He disputed the characterization of his group as racist.

Presidential candidate?  They might be being a little kind on that one. 

“We’re basically speaking about the corruption here in New Jersey politics, the immigration problem that faces our nation, and the revolving-door criminal system,” he said. Other issues he cited were the state’s high property taxes, child molesters who he said are allowed to go out in the public wearing ankle bracelets, an alleged “double standard” in which only crimes by whites against minorities are described as “hate crimes,” overspending on foreign aid, and the shipping of jobs overseas.

Hiecke added "Also, we hate black and Jewish people.  And Latinos.  And Asain people.  Pretty much anyone who's not white.  We don't know why people can't just get past that and focus on our policy ideas.  Gosh."

“We’re all considered racists or white supremacists, but that’s not what most of our members are about,” he said.

"It's true.  In fact, at least three of our members actually have Korean friends.  Or are they Japanese.  Maybe their Chinese.  All I know is they routinely talk to them while waiting for coffee."

At the same time, he noted that the organization’s symbol is a swastika, the symbol used by Adolf Hitler and Nazis during World War II and the Holocaust.

"We just like the shape.  It's a really neat!!  Has nothing to do with murdering people.  We promise."

While the NSM discusses issues that are part of mainstream political discourse, they clearly set themselves apart, Neuer said.  “The National Socialist Movement is distinctive in that they will wear Nazi-style uniforms,” he said. “One will typically see them dressed in swastikas, even more than most white supremacists. The visual that we might see of neo-Nazis clad in uniforms on the steps of the Capitol will revolt most New Jerseyans.”

Dressed For Success!!  Maybe we should add that one to The Persnickety Project's Guide to Job Searching

“They always want to accuse us of being the violent ones, and all we are doing is exercising our freedom of speech and giving people an alternative to the Democrats and the Republicans,” Hiecke said.

That's the exact same argument that the annoying little shit down the block used to use after taunting you until you punched him in the face and then ran home to tell his mommy.  All that's missing is "I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you" and "It's a free country."  Congrats on being the annoying kid on the block, dumb Nazis.

With a topic like this, we can only wonder what sort of enlightened points of view we'll see from the commentariat?  Let's read on:

jack300
All sound like reasonable issues to assail, but ditch the uniforms; they detract from the attention these issues need.

Yeah, the UNIFORMS are the problem!! Maybe a nice pinstripe suit with a cravat and a scarf.  Then they wouldn't look so darn racist. 

Check out this little exchange of ideas.

pigonthewing
What happened in 1933? Do you know what happened in 2008 in the USA. These provocateurs just want to silence any criticism from honest good people who will fear being lump in with these idiots.

What happened in 2008?  Lots of shit apparently.  That's kind of a vague question.

Dietmar
I hope you don't expect that I take anybody serious who compares the US elections of 2008 with Hitler's coming to power in 1933.

That would be kind of ridiculous.  How to you plead, Mr. onthewing?

pigonthewing
I do not care about elections, Democrats or Republicans are all puppets. I am talking about the Bailouts. If you want to know what is really going on in the world, just follow the money.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh, much less absurd to compare the rise of Hitler to the bank bailouts.  Can't believe we missed such an obvious connection.  All apologies, Pig.  Hope you don't mind us calling you by your first name.

richardhunt
This group has some very valid points and positions, you can't deny that. Love it how the liberals and minorities smear them as racist just because they are standing up for themselves and are part of the majority. With this logic the NAACP is racist because they represent colored people and the JDL is racist because they represent jews.

Ummm, yeah, we could deny it.  Seems like the points get lost in the whole "racist" cloud.  Kinda like what's happening to your point - which was apparently magically transported from the 1860's - right now.  Btw, tell your brother Mike we said hello.

Gravegirl
well if illegal immigrant groups can congregate waving foreign flags and strut around demanding rights that they are not entitled to... well then these white supreme hillbillies should have a right to a rally too. I think that people that do not agree should understand that the best way to show that you don't support something is to not show up and listen to it. The last thing we as americans should be doing is trying to silence one of the only things we have left which is free speech. We do still have that right?

From Wikipedia:  "The White Supreme Hillbillies, or White Supremes as they were popularly known, were an American female singing group and the premier act of Dumbtown Records during the 1960's.  Billed as "A Racist Alternative to Motown" the White Supremes have sold over 14 records to date and their catalog remains available at Walmart and Cracker Barrel.  They are best known for their songs "(Aryan) Baby Love", "Stop! In the Name of Love (unless your not white then just get the hell out of here)."

cuba973
Of course they are racist bigots. Why else would they have "nazi" in their title? Did these isiots go to school? Do they now the nazis killed millions of innocent jews for no reason other than being jewish? Do they no how many American soldiers died in world war 2?

What is the square root of 127? Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego? Why do you park in a driveway and drive on the parkway?  Do you know the way to Santa Fe?  Where my dogs at?  Who is your daddy and what does he do?  Why do we think this is amusing?  Why are you reading this?  Should we move on?
Skovepipe
What more proof is needed that shows Governor Christi is doing an excellent job! When you see a Neo Nazi Socialist movement rallying in Trenton you know that the liberals, Socialists, and Progressives are running scared! Give them Hell Chris! We will turn New Jersey back to a Red State!

We REALLY hope that was meant in a funny, sarcastic way.  If so, Skovepipe might be our next contributing writer.  Christie's too fat to be a Nazi anyway.

GOINGUPINSMOKE
Hopefully, Trenton's thugs and gang members will have the courage to defend their "turf" against these hill-billies. Or perhaps the BLOODS, CRIPS and LATIN KINGS are too afraid of these morons and instead will continue doing their work for them by killing their OWN?

Always a good IDEA to call OUT notoriously murderous gang MEMBERS.  Though it WOULD be kinda cool IF the gangs BATTLED it out with THE Nazis.  SOUNDS like AN episode of "Deadliest Warriors":  CRIPS v. Nazis.

Andrea Dealmagro
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana.
I would add: Those who never knew the past do not know what they are doing.

We might also add:  Those you are idiots shouldn't attempt to add on to famous quotes.

Finally, the Santa in our parade of ignorance - "NJ needs better" - the name is quite apropos. 
NJ needs better
So what is wrong with this?  Defending whites rights , every other race has it

Yeah, being white in America is really rough.  Where could we ever turn to protect our rights? It's not like for most of history the 95% of the government and industry was run by white people ... oh, wait, that's right, being white is super easy. 

Wanting to preserve their heritage , by the way I think there is a Black History month , mmm I cant say I have heard of a white history month.

You haven't heard of January, March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November or December?  That's weird.  We have a site you should check out.

Strengthening family values - mainly from what I can gather they are against homo sexuals on this point.

Totally agree.  Much rather support white power then gays getting married.  That would be icky.
Reform of immigration policies - this is a problem - depending where you get you facts from there are over 15 million un employed Americans and around 12 million illegal aliens ( fed numbers ) in the USA

According to The Project's numbers there are exactly 0 of those unemployed Americans who want to do shitty manual labor jobs for less than minimum wage like landscaping, dishwashing or just hanging outside Home Depot and hope to for a chance to ride in the back of your pickup. Can we finally put the "they're taking our jobs" argument to bed.  Please.

And for every one just to lump all of their members into being racist or hillbillies is just wrong , every organization or political group has their problems.  Do you not think the Dem and Rep have racist people , maybe even some criminals look at the politicians search out their records , you would be surprised to see how many have criminal records , or low values as in having prostitutes , dui's and drug use ect

Problems?  Problems?  Are you fucking serious?  These assholes are utilizing the name and iconography of a political party that MURDERED TENS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE!!!  THOSE ARE JUST PROBLEMS?  LIKE PROSTITUTES AND DRUGS!?!?!  WE ALL DESERVE BETTER THAN EVER HAVING TO LISTEN TO YOU TALK AGAIN.  JACKASS.

Ohh, wow.  Got a little fired up there for a second.  We feel so much better now.  Thanks for reading.  If you're not a follower - SIGN UP!!

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